Week 8 processing

players form = superb +20%

= good +10%

= normal

= poor -10%

= awful -50%

squad effectiveness 100

= 90 -10%

= 80 -20%

=70 -30%

=60 -40%

=50 or less -50%

the system then adds all the bonuses and handicaps together and adjusts each of the player skills by that amount.

for instance

QU7 can go QU7 - 50% for instance which would give QU6.5

QU8 can go to QU8 +200% for instance which would give QU9.5 as skills cant above 9.5

So skills can vary quite alot from what you see on your sheet and these figures should give you an idea of areas you can improve or areas in which you can "offset" handicaps.

there's a lot of numbers there any questions put them here and i'll do my best to answer.

Ben@Plymouth wrote:

Paul Hemmings wrote:

language groups > 3 gives -30% handicap to each player

What constitutes a language group Paul - nationality?

language group is a language, ie if you have 5 players who speak english 3 who speak italian and 3 who speak portuguese thats 3 groups, nothing to do with nats.

At Newcastle Mark has ENG / SER / POR and SPA, so thats four groups in his first 11 so each player would get a handicap for that of -10% meaning each player skill is already reduced by -1.

Nationality wise he has ENG / POR / SER / HOL / EIR / SUI / GHA / MEX / URU and BRA he doesnt get any handicaps for that, it is their languages which are important.

The language handicap can be ignored if a player has played at least 24 league or cup games for your team.

In Mark's case Kolarov can certainly speak ENG and i'm guessing that Vidic can too so they really need reviewing and that would stop his language handicap. I have reviewed them but theyve both been in the club long enough anyway not to attract the language handicap. I just used them as an example.

This is great info Paul, really much appreciated by myself and assuming everyone else!!

Kolarov skills for the game were QU8.5 AE8.5 CG9.5 DR0

Muntari skills were QU8.5 AE8.5 CG8.5 and DR8.5

so overall Mark has these two players playing well out of position but on good bonuses and with boosted skills despite being played out of position.

Paul Hemmings wrote:

Ben@Plymouth wrote:

Paul Hemmings wrote:

language groups > 3 gives -30% handicap to each player

What constitutes a language group Paul - nationality?

language group is a language, ie if you have 5 players who speak english 3 who speak italian and 3 who speak portuguese thats 3 groups, nothing to do with nats.

Thanks Paul!

Curtis Davies had QU7.5 TA8.5 ST8.5

Heitinga had QU8 TA8.5 ST8.5

so comparing skills in the matchup gives us defQU7.5/8 attQU8.5/8.5

so both Mark's wide players would be able to get past their fullbacks, having done that they lookup for a target, they ask is the centre forward playing ? the system would have said yes, they ask can I see him ? this is more complex cos the CF either has to be taller than the defenders to be seen on this first look. Forlan is height 2 so on this forst look they dont see him. This delay then gives the fullbacks chance to get back at the wideman and put in a tackle.

the tackling would go defTA8.5/8.5 vs attAE8.5/8.5 so about 50% of these tackles will be successful in this situation.

If the tackle is missed ( can be missed for lots of reasons even if TA > AE )

then the wideman looksup again for his CF and asks can I see him now, the system then gives the CF chance to dodge/avoid around the defenders, something Forlan is good at, so yes the wideman can see the CF and he crosses to him low high or whatever.

Thats a simplified version of how it works but gives an idea of the criteria and steps involved.

Forlan 9997 STCFTM AE9 CO9 HD7 SH9 ST8 TR8

for the actual game Forlan has AE7.5 CO9.5 HD9 SH9.5 ST9 TR9

Once Forlan gets the ball then its a similar situation, the system checks to see fi he is alone if he is then he shoots or heads, if its a low cross he may shoot, if its a high cross he may head or bring it down and shoot.

He'll be challenged if he's not along so there's another TA vs AE matchup on the ground or a HD vs HD matchup in the air. So even though Forlan is short its better to cross high to him cos he has an ace heading ability,but if you do cross low and he beats his tackler ( lots of ways to do this apart from having good AE ) then he will shoot and his SH is top rated so he may score more goals if he can avoid the tackle.

wow!

talk about detail guys!

amazing stuff paul

Paul Hemmings wrote:

so both Mark's wide players would be able to get past their fullbacks, having done that they lookup for a target, they ask is the centre forward playing ? the system would have said yes, they ask can I see him ? this is more complex cos the CF either has to be taller than the defenders to be seen on this first look. Forlan is height 2 so on this forst look they dont see him. This delay then gives the fullbacks chance to get back at the wideman and put in a tackle.

I would never even of thought of this, unbelievable depth to this game Paul !

Im Lost for Words! wow! Great insight Paul.

basically...to improve your chances of winning make sure bonuses are maxed and handicaps are nulled, that way you should be getting good performances if nothing else.

A top team where everything is right should be beating lowly opposition at least 4-0 if the team is spot on then 6-0 is the score you can get, obviously not guaranteed but they are the sort of scores your team can get if everything is right on the night so to speak.

Iain has had Real Madrid in this situation before and regularly racked up at least 4 goals against the other poorer spanish clubs.

these are the reasons why strikers dont often score as many as they should, each tactic has its own dependancies and you need to make sure all the important parts of the tactic are running at full tilt.

Paul is there anything in particular we should look for in pairing 2 forwards?

Paul Hemmings wrote:

Iain has had Real Madrid in this situation before and regularly racked up at least 4 goals against the other poorer spanish clubs.

Many years ago, then i got greedy and tried to get a squad of 9999's and then I got lazy

Rob@Inter wrote:

Paul is there anything in particular we should look for in pairing 2 forwards?

Its more important to make sure that individually they are both maxed out and then they should play well together. It doesnt reeally make any difference as to the names of who they are, just that you get them both playing up to their full potential.

Obviously to get a player maxed out takes a bit of knowledge, a striker will need diff skills to a CF or a TM for instance, and two central forwards add weight to each other and help create space for each other so playing two can improve things on its own sometimes.

For instance playing CF ST in WHV is better than playing ST S2 because the passes come mainly from the wings and one should be a big guy as the obvious target, and in WHV if the CF cant get free to shoot which is sometimes the case with big guys thenippy ST is there to get free and take the pass. But in FAS its better to have ST S2 because the passes come thru the middle and both need to be nippy.

Paul any chance of reviewing my performance if poss? cheers mate. and maybe some idea why i was doing well (until now atleast)

thank you!

So Paul, in terms of those who are struggling atm it is more than likely that players won't be maxed out that is causing problems, if of course you have the players playing in their PP and the correct players for the tactic - because from my point of view and I would presume some others too it is difficult to work out why we can't beat some teams that we potentially should be with the team we put out.

Are there other things to be looking out for - such as player not liking each other or anything like that that are affect how they play together?

Quick one for anyone to answer. Does a DY suffer any rating drop playing other midfield positions?

There are more bonuses that are apportioned as the game progresses, which can change as the game progresses, and one of those is aggression.

Players can have one of five natural aggressions and each gives a +10% bonus to each skill in certain situations, and the aggression you choose for the game is also a factor in player skills in these situations, so in a tackle the overall skills would be adjusted to also take into account a players natural aggression and his enforced aggression.

Forlan's natural aggression bonus is +40% and Mark chose 3 agg making his total bonus +70%. So in a tackle his effective AE would be 7.5+70% making 8.2

whilst United's CB Lescott and Vidic have TA8.0 and TA9.5 with a 60% from ManU aggression giving TA8.6 and TA9.5, so on the ground Forlan would lose out most times to both these players, but he doesnt because the system also checks things like TK9.0 to see if he still gets the edge.

If Mark upped his aggression to 6 and matched ManU that would give Forlan AE8.5 and bring his AE closer to lescott's TA so making it more likely for him to beat Lescott, and the quicker players do things the more space and time they get to shoot so improving their chances of scoring.